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S4 E4: The Next Generation

Charles and Jon turn the podcast over to three of the youngest mammalwatchers we know: Ellen Linton (20), Bruno Kovacs Gomez (16) and Moses Swanson-Mwamasika (15).

In a lively chat the three share stories about their passion, why they love it and what their friends and family think. We hear stories about pizza with a Caracal in South Africa; close encounters with pouched rats in Zimbabwe; and a quest for a Golden Jackal in Hungary. The next generation also offer advice on how to encourage friends to join a trip. So press play if you want to learn how to sneakily turn a road trip with your bestie into a pocket gopher safari or are contemplating more extreme measures …

The podcast starts with ‘notes from the field’ from Jannico Kelk and Nicolas Rakotopare, recorded live in Darjeeling moments after a spectacular Red Panda encounter.

S4 E3: Adventures in Argentina & Tales from Tanzania

Charles and Jon don’t have a guest this month. Instead we talk to each about our recent trips to southern Tanzania (Charles) and Tierra del Fuego (Jon).

Charles’s adventure coincided with the Tanzanian elections and an outbreak of protests. These may have shut down the country but did not deter its mammalwatchers! In between negotiating their way through road blocks and buying diesel from trucks stuck on the road, they managed to see a ridiculous number of mammal species (almost 80) including the Kipunji, a primate only discovered by scientists a few years ago.

Jon’s trip through Patagonia went more smoothly. The highlight was a day looking for Leopard Seals in a remote area of Chilean Tierra del Fuego. He had crippling views of the seal amongst jaw dropping scenery. One of his best days ever.

S4 E2: János Oláh

In the first podcast of 2026 we talk with professional bird and mammal guide János Oláh from his home in Hungary. János set up Sakertours in 1994. Initially focussing on birding tours in Eastern Europe they expanded to run hide-based photography tours and now mammal tours.

János explains how he was drawn to birding as a child, and the formative role an aversion to summer camp chores played in the process. He describes how and why he set up his Romania Mammal Tour, on which participants can expect to see over 50 mammal species in 9 days! And he shares a very important life lesson he learned as a boy while looking for a ‘Dawn Bird’: preferred habitat is far more useful to a successful search than a species’ common name!

The podcast begins with a ‘live from the field’ account of our heroically unsuccessful search for a Sumatran Striped Rabbit, which János was lucky enough to be a part of.

S4 E1: Expedition to Sulawesi

In the Season 4 opener to the mammalwatching podcast, Charles and Jon talk about their September 2025 expedition to Sulawesi.

We give a blow by blow – and mammal by mammal – account of a remarkable two week trip that recorded over 80 mammal species. Our story is interspersed with interviews from the field with Carlos Bocos, the trip leader; bat guru Prof Juliana Senawi; and the other participants (Stuart Chapman, Nick Cox, János Oláh, Martin Royle and Ian Thompson). We also include a conversation witth Ating Solihin from Sulawesi’s Malenge Island about his role in bringing back the Togean Babirusa from the brink of extinction.

Highlights include:

  • Explaining why the initial excitement of seeing species that were likely new to science quickly turned to frustration.
  • Hearing why giving a seven year old a mammal book might just dictate the rest of their life.
  • Advice for others planning to visit Sulawesi, including the importance of bringing your own sleeping mats and never wearing flip flops into a bat cave!

S3 E18: Nachiket Kelkar & Kadambari Deshpande (India)

Season 3 finale.

Charles and Jon speak to conservation power couple Nachiket Kelkar and Kadambari Deshpande from their home in Bangalore.

Kadambari and Nachiket both work to better understand how wildlife and people can co-exist in India, with Kadambari focussing on bats and Nachiket looking at riverine ecosystems and wildlife including the Ganges River Dolphin.

In a fascinating interview they discuss some of the threats facing the species they are working to protect as well as some of the facets of Indian society – and its sometimes striking tolerance for living alongside wildlife – that help to allow  wildlife and people to co-exist.

They describe a recent trip in search with Bob Pitman (a 2022 podcast guest) in search of India’s remaining two Indus River Dolphins and also explain how Indian Flying Foxes are a cashew-farmer’s best friend!

https://www.mammalwatching.com/podcast/s3-e18-nachiket-kelkar-kadambari-deshpande-india/

S3 E17: African Golden Cat researcher Laila Bahaa-el-din

We talk with carnivore conservation expert Laila Bahaa-el-din.

Laila studied the near mythical African Golden Cat for her PhD in Gabon from 2010 – 2015 and was the first to study the species for a PhD.

She explains how her grandfather inspired her to follow a career in conservation and how a chance encounter with a mislabeled photo of an African Golden Cat saved her from studying raptors and took her to Gabon.

Laila describes how she studied the cats using camera traps and how a bird flying into a tent led to her one and only sighting during four years in the field.

She also recounts some of her very many adventures in Gabon that range from pleading with a female gorilla to keep quiet so as not to alert the silverback, to fleeing from an elephant while trying to get out of a poncho.  No wonder she turned to poetry for solace!

S3 E16: Nigel Marven

We talk with wildlife filmmaker and presenter Nigel Marven from his home in the UK.

Nigel describes how a childhood fascination with wildlife led to his first job in TV, ‘wrangling worms’, and from there to working with Sir David Attenborough and ultimately presenting and making his own shows and films.

He explains why his films have often put the spotlight onto smaller, less well-known but fascinating mammals including Russian Desmans, Chinese Mole-shrews and Star-nosed Moles.

And he describes some of his most memorable mammal encounters from Bactrian Camels in China to swimming with Belugas in the Canadian Arctic.

S3 E15: Rachel Ashegbofe Ikemeh, Nigeria

We talk with Rachel Ashegbofe Ikemeh, founder of the SW/Niger Delta Conservation Project. Rachel, a Nigerian conservationist and visionary, has built a team of almost 100 people working at the grassroots community level to save the wildlife of the Niger Delta. The delta, densely populated and home to oil and gas reserves, is one of the most degraded environments on the planet. It contains over half of the swamp forest in West and Central Africa and the world’s largest mangrove forest. Yet 95% of the forest has been lost in the past 15 years.

Rachel describes her career and how she stumbled into conservation work despite the many obstacles she faced from a society where young women are expected to get married and have children and definitely not become biologists!

She talks about some of the delta’s many special mammals including critically endangered primates like the the Niger Delta Red Colobus that Rachel’s team is bringing back from the brink of extinction with the help of local communities.

And Rachel talks about some of the very many dangers she has faced working in this difficult area. She has run the gauntlet of everything from death threats to drowning and also had a very close encounter with an angry Elephant.

S3 E14: Shavez Cheema, Borneo

Charles and Jon talk to Shavez Cheema, founder of Borneo1Stop Wildlife, from his home in Sabah.

Shavez talks about a childhood in Brunei surrounded by wildlife and how, at the age of nine, he was inspired to work in conservation after seeing a neighbour’s senseless killing of a monitor lizard.

We discuss the massive potential for growth in conservation tourism across Borneo, and both the benefits and problems it might create. And Shavez explains why Borneo1Stop Wildlife is committed to opening up new mammalwatching areas and what visitors can expect from them.

Any conversation about Borneo will feature some premier league mammals. Shavez’s favorite moments include an unexpected encounter with a Tufted Ground Squirrel and walk away views of a Clouded Leopard.

S3 E13: Venkat Sankar & Nicole Haseley’s Big California Year

Charles and Jon talk with mammalwatching power couple Venkat Sankar & Nicole Haseley from their base at Stanford University in California.

Nicole and Venkat ‘accidentally’ turned 2024 into a Big California (Mammal) Year and ended up seeing a record breaking 150 species in the state by December 31.

They talk about some of their big year’s highs and lows as well as their favourite places in California to mammalwatch, and offer advice on how to identify small mammals in the field.

Plus Nicole explains why browsing iNaturalist pictures in public can be a fast track to romance.

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    I'm making this exact trip in a few days and you have me terrified. I'm already trying to get in…

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    Thanks Jon - much appreciated!

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